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  • #465109
    zola
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    What’s happening with US national team?

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  • #1137062
    r377
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    haha    everyday i read another player has dropped out.

    Last i heard they were getting down to Marcus Smart, Jaylen Brown and Juluis Randle

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  • #1137063
    Robb_C
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    You wanna hear the truth?

     It’s political…

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    • #1137090
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      Scrooge McDuck
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      I dunno. Do you think nba players hate the USA that much, if so they’re bigots. I don’t believe the current administration is racist

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      • #1137094
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        Endlessknight
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        Please for the love of GOD can we not turn this into a political discuss.

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  • #1137065
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    They are all running scared from the threat of summer league legends Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Brandon Clarke, and Mfiondu Kabengele leading Canada to gold while also plotting their long-term plan to force the Grizzlies back to Vancouver and form a true Big 3 there once their rookie deals expire.

    The legendary Greek team led by Tyler Dorsey from the famed Greek island of Pasadena is also going to be a problem.

    I joke, but once there are enough defection where the tournament is no longer spoken of in a manner where there needs to be a perfect storm scenerio for the US to lose, I think some guys have started to get scared of what losing would do to their reputation. Harrison Barnes and Kyle Lowry are the only ones left from the 2016 team, and I tend to believe the likes of Canada, Spain, France, Serbia, and Greece not only aren’t going to be scared but will see this as their best chance at winning gold. With Jokic and Giannis, the US will likely play games where they don’t have the best player on the floor for the first time since Arvydas ended the era of college players.

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    • #1137092
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      OhCanada-
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       You just had to tell them our plan didnt you. Oh well its too late to stop us now. Were taking back our teams and our sport.

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  • #1137066
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    theballerway
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    If star X is not playing star Y wont play are does feel the need to.

    Contracts have just been signed for a few of them plus a few more entering the last year of the contract. Soplayers protecting themselves ‘ load managemen’ however teams protecting themselves asking guys to skip it (Zion)

    Looks like they might have to put an actual ‘team’ together 

    plus its only the world cup…..

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  • #1137067
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    HobbyOG
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     Winning the "World Cup" is not specticular on your resume..winning the olympics is…US should only send 25 years and younger players to the World Cup to give them international experience..US was winning the world cup back in the day and was only sending college players. 

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    • #1137089
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      khaled_a_d
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      FIBA already preparing to make Olympics for under 23 players.
      Your idea -if used by team USA- will surely accelerate the process.
      No respectable federation would accept the world cup being treated beneath Olympics that way, they will lose ton of money from that

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  • #1137070
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    timinator1
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    right now, per my math, they still have this lineup:

    PG: McCollum, Kemba, Lowry

    SG: Donovan Mitchell, Eric Gordon

    SF: Khris Middleton, Jayson Tatum; Harrison Barnes

    PF: Millsap, PJ Tucker, Kuzma, Love (?)

    C: Brook Lopez, Miles Turner, Andre Drummond

    I think they could use one more 3pt specialist (Danny Green, JJ Redick etc) but other than that… 

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    • #1137073
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      timinator1
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      that hurts. Def need shooting now more than ever 

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      • #1137105
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        OhCanada-
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         Lowry will likely travel with the team but may not play because he had thumb surgery this summer.

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    • #1137087
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      The Goat
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       CJ and Gordon also out I believe

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  • #1137071
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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    It’s simple. There just isn’t a whole lot to gain from playing for the established stars. Guys aren’t getting paid to go and the thrill of “representing your country” simply doesn’t mean what it used to for most of these guys. It means a whole lot more for the majority of the international players. Guys just don’t feel any obligation to play. If you have a career to think about, having an offseason to recover and train for the upcoming season is really the priority. 

    To be honest, as an overall fan of the game I’d actually rather see the US send it’s b team. Even the odds a bit and makes for a more competitive event in my opinion. 

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  • #1137074
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    timinator1
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    has to do with Space Jam 2? 

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  • #1137075
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    CoachWyers
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     CJ McCollum has dropped out.  I think team will look like

    C Drummond/Lopez

    PF Love/Millsap/Kuzma

    SF Middleton/Barnes

    SG Mitchell/Gordon/Smart

    PG Walker/Lowry

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    • #1137106
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      OhCanada-
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       Still byfar the best team. USA could make 5 more teams and still have the best roster on paper.

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  • #1137076
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    HobbyOG
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     Love just dropped out..

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    • #1137079
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      BothTeamsPlayedHard
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      Getting close to Melo time.

      By August, it is going to be an all free agent team.
      PG- Jeremy Lin, Jimmer Fredette, Raymond Felton
      SG- Jamal Crawford, Andre Ingram
      SF- JR Smith, Lance Stephenson
      PF- Carmelo Anthony, Kenneth Faried, Michael Beasley
      C- Greg Monroe, Dwight Howard

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      • #1137081
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        XYRYX
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        I would by an Andre Ingram team USA jersey!  

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  • #1137077
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    projectpat310
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    As of right now these are the players confirmed for tryouts (they’re trying to add guys like D-Lo and Conley, but this list is current):

    C: A. Drummond, B. Lopez

    PF: P. Millsap, K. Kuzma, M. Turner, J. Randle, T. Young

    SF: H. Barnes, K. Middleton, P. Tucker

    SG: D. Mitchell, J. Brown, J. Tatum

    PG: K. Lowry, K. Walker, M. Smart

     

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  • #1137082
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    Memphis Madness
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    My team would be: 

    PG: Kemba Walker, Kyle Lowry, Tre Young

    SG: Donovan Mitchell, Marcus Smart, Landry Shamet

    SF: Jayson Tatum, Kris Middleton

    PF: Julius Randle, Jaren Jackson, Jr.

    C: Brook Lopez, Mitchell Robinson

     

    This would add more youth, explosiveness, and 3 point shooting.

     

     

     

     

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    • #1137102
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      HobbyOG
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       Your team would get their azz whooped…

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  • #1137086
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    SwatLakeCity
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     Honestly, this happens every year. And no its not because the thrill of playing for your country just isn’t there. That ‘s part of it, but not the main reason why.  (If that was the case, we’d have some serious issues with patriotism to deal with)

    Here are the main reasons why I think this is happening:

    1.  the word cup is set very close to training camp that it conflicts with teams wanting to incorporate new players into their roster.  Honestly, this should have been expected with a ton of players changing teams. This is the first year, the world cup is set this close to training camp, so I can see why a lot of stars are doing this.
    2. basketball is a worldwide sport now. So there is another outlet for stars to travel. A lot of stars already travel as part of their offseason routines, so to have to do that as well as participate in training camp at practically the same time is really asking quite a lot.
    3. the World cup is not the Olympics like HobbyOG said. So if this continues to happen next year when it is the Olympics then we are in trouble, but I don’t expect it to.

    Now, do we have anything to fear, is their cause for concern? No, I don’t think so. If D-Lo is added and Mike Conley to the current list that projectpat310 listed than I don’t see a problem. 

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  • #1137088
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    The Goat
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     They should still win due to depth, but it will be interesting because they won’t have the best player in the floor in some games. When other teams can now put out 5 players with NBA experience at once, or dont have the best player on the floor, there’s a risk USA loses when they switch off.

    Just off the top of my head –

    Serbia has Jokic, Bogdanovic, Teodosic
    Greece has 3 Antetokoumbros, Calathes, Koufos, Dorsey
    Australia has Simmons, Baynes, Mills, Bolden, Bogut, Exum, Delly, Creek, Broekhoff, Maker
    Canada has Murray, SGA, NAW, Barrett, Wiggins, TT, Mfiondu
    Are Cameroon playing? They have Embiid and Siakam.

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    • #1137101
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      BothTeamsPlayedHard
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      Czech Republic (Tomáš Satoranský, Jan Veselý, Ondřej Balvín, Blake Schlib, Patrick Auda)
      Turkey (Furkan Korkmaz, Cedi Osman, Ersan Ilyasova, Semih Erden, Doğuş Balbay, and their naturalized player will either be Scottie Wilbekin or Ali Muhammad- formerly named Bobby Dixon)
      Japan (Rui Hachimura, Nick Fazekas, Yuta Watanabe, Kai Toews-UNC Wilmington point is a maybe)

      The US should, and almost certainly will, roll through the first phase. Maybe Turkey can hang around for a half, but their Euroleague giants are so foreign dominated that I am not sure of their depth.

      The next round will see them play the top 2 team from Group F, Greece and then either New Zealand, Brazil, or Montenegro.
      It is hard to believe the US won’t face Greece. They have Giannis, Nick Calathes, Tyler Dorsey, Kostas Papanikolaou (former Nugget who could have stayed in the NBA), Kostas Sloukas (first team All-Euroleague), Georgios Papagiannis (former Kings lottery pick), and new Buck and Laker Thanasis and Kostas Antetokoumpo. They could beat the US.
      A loss wouldn’t be too harmful so long as they beat the other team from Group F.

      Montenegro might have Nikola Vučević (he has not fully committed), one-time Blazers draft pick Marko Todorović, one-time Timberwolves draft pick Bojan Dubljević, former Fairfield Stag Derek Needham, former Georgia Bulldog Nemanja Đurišić, and possible future draft pick Dino Radončić.
      New Zealand’s preliminary roster has Steven Adams and a ton of former college players: Thomas Abercrombie (Washington State), Tai Webster (Nebraska), Rob Loe (Saint Louis), Finn Delany (Southwest Baptist), Corey Webster (training camp with Pelicans), and Isaac Fotu (Hawaii).
      Brazil has Leandro Barbosa, Bruno, Cristiano Felicio, Anderson Varejão, Marcelinho (former Laker), Alex Garcia (former Spur), Marquinhos (former Hornet), Didi Louzada (2019 Pelicans pick), and Yago dos Santos (undrafted in 2019 but promising).

      After that round is the knockout stage where it will likely be Canada, France, Spain, Greece, Serbia, etc, and nothing will be easy.

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    • #1137103
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      HobbyOG
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       Simmions and Exum not playing…

      Wiggins not playing…

      Embiid not playing…

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  • #1137093
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    nick5354
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     Man I feel so bad for those people who paid a small fortune for tickets to see the USA team here in AUS.

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    • #1137095
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      BlueRivers25
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       Not as bad as all the people who paid for tickets to see Zion in summer league. 

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  • #1137107
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    Andrew1984
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     Just send whoever wins TBT. 

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  • #1137109
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    Andv1 Waiting
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    Just my opinion with the odd exception:

    Most of the so called star players will be bailing due to this being at least IMO the first year that people believe the league is wide open with injuries and K.D leaving GSW looking like a fringe playoff team(no clear cut favourite like GSW years).

    So most of the duo’s don’t want to be the reason that their team didn’t go far this year. Less mileage on the body before the season starts the better.Meaning hopefully freshier for the playoffs.

    But the other reasons could be: offseason surgeries that players hid until playoffs finished,Next deal around the corner so don’t want a Boogie/I.T happeing to them if they aren’t locked up to longterm deals.

    The wild card reason could be that they don’t want to be on the team that doesn’t bring home the gold…Especially if no Franchise level player doesn’t go to be the scapegoat..See K.D,A.D or other players of that level that you can force to be the focal point/face of team not going..

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Canada making some noise though. SGA,His cousin,R.J barret,Jamal Murray…Sorry I can’t remember what bigs or wings they have(Wiggins and T.T not playing obviously)

     

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  • #1137117
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    BlueRivers25
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    This is a big opportunity for Mitchell and Tatum. I hope they both make the final cut and play major roles for Team USA. 

    After playing under Coach K in the Summers, most players went on to have very successful indivudual and/or team seasons. Curious to see how the players do after a Summer under Coach Pop. 

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  • #1137144
    marcusfizer21
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     I smell complacency. This is a making of that 2002 World Championship team. 

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  • #1137230
    r377
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    According to Brian Windhorst of ESPN, Julius Randle has withdrawn from Team USA training camp due to a family issue.

     

     

     

    Torrey Craig has been added to USA’s Select Team to replace Landry Shamet.

     

    Shamet withdrew from training camp on Friday, which opened up a spot for Craig. Players are expected to report to Las Vegas for the start of training camp on Sunday.

     

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    • #1137240
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      BothTeamsPlayedHard
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      USA Basketball probably did itself no favors by scheduling so many money-grabbing pre-tournament games that serve to extend the amount of time guys need to commit this summer. Then again, after all the defections, the team now probably needs as much time together as possible.

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