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  • #33628
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    Wavy Bagels
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  • #606457
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    M-DYMES
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    Drake = Wannabe drug user

    I’m on one my ass.  I know u don’t touch syrup, weed, coke, wateva…u should be proud of that.  But then you go out and make "I’m On One", got all those kids who were lookin at the clean boy in hiphop and idolizing him now saying "haha (jada voice) im on one"

    I guess he’ll do watever for $$$$.  Whether its rapping bullsh*t or playing a kid in a wheelchair.

    Dude’s not a bad rapper and thats the sad part.  Look at his old sh*t, my boy OhCanada tipped me off to some ish he was doing back in the day and I was impressed.  Not my style, but I was impressed none the less. 

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  • #606471
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    Not my sytle either. But When I made that beat, I said to myself  "Drake would go perfect with this", even though I know there are MANY other artists that could catch wreck on it.

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  • #606477
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    I agree with you 100%!!!!!!!

    Drake is wanna-be gangster! This guy lived in the Foresthill area of Toronto which is one of the wealthiest areas in Canada and was raised by a Jewish mother. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t do any of that kind of stuff yet he raps about it.

    Like I said, the media (rap game) is all about promotion. Look at the rappers today, GET MONEY, F*CK B*TCHES, SMOKE WEED, COUNT STACKS, man it’s all bulls***!! And look at how it affects society today. All he wants is the money, that’s all he cares about.

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  • #606498
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    While I’m not a Drake-fan nor a Drake-hater… how are you guys SO sure that he doesn’t do drugs whatsoever?

     

    It’s crazy how the biggest B.I.G. fans are also the biggest haters of modern-day music.  Notorious raps about EXACTLY the same things that modern-day rappers rap about pu//ssy, money, and weed.. and why is he considered one of the greatest?  Because he was the first one to do so? Or because he died at a young age?

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  • #606546
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    M-DYMES
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    Cuz B.I.G. was original at the time.  Hell look at today’s music, his lines get recycled all the time.  Jay-Z made a career of coping B.I.G.’s bars (Jay’s good but he rides B.I.G.’s cock). 

    B.I.G. also is lyrically above nearly every rapper in the game.  The lyrics may be violent, dirty, and not exactly what some want to hear, but they were great nonetheless. 

    He also lived that lifestyle, his rap was straight out of his life.  Again like it or not, man spoke the truth.  90% of todays rappers don’t live the lifestyle they rap about. 

    Listen to Juicy, Dead Wrong, Kick in The Door, Who Shot ya, 10 crack commandments, etc….

    Instantly you should see why he is sooooo much better than most, if not all of todays rappers. 

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  • #606547
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    M-DYMES
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    No doubt rSharpe…

    The beats dope as fu*k.  Most of Drake’s beats are crazy.  But I mean you listen to remixes with guys like Royce Da 5’9" and they just take that beat to another level.  Drake is cool for a hook every now and then, but his rap aint my style at all.  He’s just a guy who should be brought in for a classic hook every now and then.  Kind of a poor man’s modern day Nate Dogg.  Except Nate Dogg could rap too and throw down some amazing RnB type vocals. 

    Nah nevermind, u can’t compare Nate to Drake.  But i think you get where I’m coming from.

    R.I.P. Nate Dogg…arguably the greatest voice in the hiphop game.  Dude’s hooks gave me shivers man.  I could listen to him all day.

     

     

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  • #606561
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    You don’t need to give me a list of rap songs from BIG to listen to.. lol

    I’m pretty sure I’ve heard just as much as you, or a tad bit less.

    That is exactly what I meant, BIG became famous because he was the first one to rap about it, does that mean if the next generation of rappers talk about their religious beliefs, they are going to suck because Pac already did that?

    The rap game has been around for decades, styles will be repeated and one can’t say, "Well, he was here first, so his is better"

    50 Cent’s stories hold a lot of water but people still hate on him.  Rappers like Kanye West and T.I. have also had their fair share of struggles, they weren’t the pioneers of their style of rap so they get hate as well.

    See what I’m saying?  Rappers today are given unfair opinions because their style has been previously repeated, it is not their fault that they weren’t born first.

    I’m not trying to say that guys like Lil Wayne are on the same level as B.I.G. but Wayne is also VERY lyrically talented.  It’s overshadowed by his talk about the guns he doesn’t shoot and the hoods he’s not from but he literally has a metaphor in almost EVERY bar in his songs.

    I’m not trying to change your mind and make you believe B.I.G. is just like every rapper, but in a sense, he is.  Yeah, he lived through what he rapped, but so did 50.  To an extent, so did The Game.  Hell, even Kid Cudi went through tough times in his lifetime.  That doesn’t make them legendary, what if they would have died at a young age?  They probably would be legendary then.

    Drake is going through the SAME phase that B.I.G. went through.  When they both got rich, they swayed away from what made them famous in the first place (B.I.G. rapped about his life and struggle; Drake rapped about women and pretty much was nearly RnB with his love songs) and began talking about their weed, women, liquor, "party and bullshit".

    I mean really, what difference does "I’m On One" have with "Hypnotize"?

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  • #606569
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    RUDEBOY_
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    My lil niece says Drake looks like Bart from Sesame Street..

     

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  • #606572
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    RUDEBOY_
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    L-O-N-G

    L-I-V-E-S

    TUPAC

     

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  • #606575
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    M-DYMES
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    Wayne is talented…at creating similies and metaphors as you have said.

    But when every bar of your song is one, its destroys his songs.  I’d say 90% of his work since the Carter 3 does not have a true meaning.  The songs lack substance and that is why I do not enjoy listening to his new stuff that often.  Not to mention many of his metaphors and similies are recycled in his songs, his voice has gotten to be pretty damn annoying, and that laugh is horrible…idk if he’s tryina pull a Jada or what but it is annoying as well.  Every now and then I’ll laugh or ill be like that was pretty clever, but none of his tracks nowadays really have a message.  And the ones that kind of do digress from it throughout the song.

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  • #606576
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    And I agree with you, I love songs with messages.  That’s the reason Lupe Fiasco, Eminem, and Nas are my favorite rappers.  Like I said, there isn’t much of a difference between Drake post-getting big and B.I.G. post-getting big.

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  • #606586
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    M-DYMES
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    I assume you mean other than Biggie having a much stronger flow, adding violence and the struggle to his rhymes, dominant wordplay, and staying true to his hustle. 

    Drake is a singer

    Bigge is a rapper

    Drake is good for a great hook (typically, although I admit I enjoy a few songs)

    Biggie is good for a hit song.

    "Long nights i perform like Mike/ anyone:
    Tyson, Jordan, Jackson, action-packed..guns/
    ridiculous and im quick to bust if my ends you touch/in the end u crushed, in this world i clutch/
    2 auto-matos..used to call me fat so now call me Castro/my rap flow’s militant.. thease faxxots aint killin shxx/oops- Cristal keep splillin shxx/ u over did it holmes u in the danger zone- u shouldnt be alone.." – from Victory

    Let me know when Drizzy puts out anything remotely as fly as that.

    Plus Biggie changed the industry.  He was a fat kid who could rhyme, and he made that cool.  He made people accept him despite his size.  For bigger kids, I’m sure he was an inspiration.

     

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  • #606588
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    That’s why I stated "post-getting big" as in famous.

    Aside from Juicy, his first single so he wasn’t ‘big’ yet, what other song was a top rated single and made him big cash that had an actual meaning to it?  I’ll give you Sky’s The Limit but after that?

    None.

    Everything else was "One More Chance", "Hypnotize", "Big Poppa", and "Mo Money Mo Problems"

    Like I said, once both Drake and B.I.G. went mainstream and got recognition and money, they started rapping about their new wealth and new women.

     

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  • #606590
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    Notorious had 4 #1 songs.  (24 yrs)

    • Big Poppa
    • Hypnotize
    • Mo Money Mo Problems
    • One More Chance

    Drake has had 5. (25 yrs)

    • Best I Ever Had
    • Forever
    • Over
    • Fancy
    • Headlines

    So to say that Drake is ONLY good for a hook and Biggie is good for hits isn’t much of a fact rather an opinion.

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  • #606592
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    Not to mention…

    Drake is 2nd rapper (50 Cent the first) to hold the TOP 3 spots simultaneously with hit rap singles.

    • I’m On One
    • Headlines
    • She Will

    So to say that he’s only good for hooks and not for hits… again, is just an opinion.

    And why is it a bad thing that he’s a singer?  That shouldn’t be a negative hit towards him rather than a positive.  He is multitalented and if he can make that work, then good for him.  It shouldn’t be used an a negative statement.

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  • #606602
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    I don’t care about top rated songs.  In fact, usually in albums, I find myself more into the deep tracks.  Biggie’s non-hit singles are my favorites.  They are a hell lot more gritty and more blunt on the subjects as opposed to singles which typically made to create a more harmonious vibe that will appeal to the masses. 

    And I didn’t say it was a bad thing that Drake was a singer.  Its just a difference between him and Biggie, that is what I was listing.  I wasn’t listing negatives at all, just differences. 

    And what makes hits is typically a hook, that’s why Drake’s songs are tend to be on the hit lists often.  People like a chorus being the highlight of the song b/c that is what plays the most and is typically less thorough lyrically. 

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