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  • #24555
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    Dc773
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    Did any of you guys hear about this? And does it change your independent views on the society we live in? Also, the government and private sectors which affect sovereigns of America? (Leave the incompetency elsewhere; this is earnest discussion.)

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  • #469925
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    Toronto16
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    Oh my gosh.  This is awful.  Americans doing this within their own army?

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  • #469940
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    Toronto16
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    Oh my gosh.  This is awful.  Americans doing this within their own army?

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  • #470028
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Oh My God!! People in this World are so Corrupt and have no Respect for others…This is my 1st time hearing about this story..But i’ve seen some buffoon use LaVena Johnson’s pix on a Dating Site!!!!

    So many people were killed fighting in 2 wars that we had no reason to be fighting …And the government makes it worst by people who havent been properly trained on the battlefield..The majority of Americans that were killed ..Were killed by friendly fire.Meaning Americans were mistakenly killed by other Americans or 1 of our allies..And higher ups in the military lie about how they were killed…Former NFL player Pat Tillman’s death was the result of friendly fire,but military leaders lied about how he was killed….

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  • #470013
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Oh My God!! People in this World are so Corrupt and have no Respect for others…This is my 1st time hearing about this story..But i’ve seen some buffoon use LaVena Johnson’s pix on a Dating Site!!!!

    So many people were killed fighting in 2 wars that we had no reason to be fighting …And the government makes it worst by people who havent been properly trained on the battlefield..The majority of Americans that were killed ..Were killed by friendly fire.Meaning Americans were mistakenly killed by other Americans or 1 of our allies..And higher ups in the military lie about how they were killed…Former NFL player Pat Tillman’s death was the result of friendly fire,but military leaders lied about how he was killed….

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  • #470039
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    Mr. 19134
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     I’m in the Army and the first thing I always have to point out is that the Troops DO NEED TO BE IN AFGHANISTAN.  Iraq was and is all politics but in Afghanistan that was a real training ground for terrorists and is a very important location because that Afghanistan is surrounded by nothing but other countries mostly Muslim so it serves as a hub for terrorists.  By taking out the enemy in Afghanistan you not only prevent any future attacks on America but you also prevent the enemy from getting bigger and more bold.  Not only that bringing stability to that region is so important and they obviously weren’t doing it by themselves.

    You guys got to ask yourself something.  What do you think would posses somebody from the Middle East to spend 10 years training and building his mind and courage to come over to America and kill not only himself but other Americans?  That is basically what they did on 9/11 and were continuing to do.  If we never went over their do you know how strong they would of gotten?  How many men they could of built up to attack America from so many different angles.  And it’s not only our home turf many people forget just how many embassies, ambassadors, air force bases, and students who are living abroad all thru out the Middle East and Europe and Egypt who would be at danger of getting attacked.  

    Remember Bin Laden bombed one of our African embassies and also one of our Navy Ships before 9/11 killing many Americans.  Would you of rather had us wait to get attacked again, or actually do something about it.  Not only to seek justice for those of our fellow Americans who have been martyred but also to prevent this from happening in the future.  The only way to kill this thing which must die is too dig into the ground and pull it out by the roots.  That is what we are doing and we are doing a very good job of it.

    What happened to that girl was a tragedy.  But being in the Army I know how these things can get covered up, and I also know how these things can be reversed to make it look like a cover up.  Now that guy had a sketch of the murder scene and all of this supposed evidence but I’m going to keep it real with you and what you were viewing was grieving parents who lost their daughter and are now out to get revenge and won’t stop till they see their daughter again.  I can understand that but this is what we call misplaced hate and blame.  They do not have any evidence to support the fact she was raped and murdered.  If their were then their would be people going down for it but whether she was killed, killed herself, or was killed by accident, over their when the rest of that base is living with the reality that any second a mortor round, a bomb, or an attack can happen and kill everybody else their the only thing to do is move on.  That girl was in her PT gear meaning she was off duty.  It sounds like it was an accidental discharge it looked like something might of happened on accident.

    I can promise you this tho the Military does not want murdering rapists in the Army.  This should not be viewed as a reflection on life in the military or how the military works.  There are corrupted people in every shape of life and sure their are some in the military but do not get confuse reality with propaganda is all I’m saying.  

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  • #470054
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    Mr. 19134
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     I’m in the Army and the first thing I always have to point out is that the Troops DO NEED TO BE IN AFGHANISTAN.  Iraq was and is all politics but in Afghanistan that was a real training ground for terrorists and is a very important location because that Afghanistan is surrounded by nothing but other countries mostly Muslim so it serves as a hub for terrorists.  By taking out the enemy in Afghanistan you not only prevent any future attacks on America but you also prevent the enemy from getting bigger and more bold.  Not only that bringing stability to that region is so important and they obviously weren’t doing it by themselves.

    You guys got to ask yourself something.  What do you think would posses somebody from the Middle East to spend 10 years training and building his mind and courage to come over to America and kill not only himself but other Americans?  That is basically what they did on 9/11 and were continuing to do.  If we never went over their do you know how strong they would of gotten?  How many men they could of built up to attack America from so many different angles.  And it’s not only our home turf many people forget just how many embassies, ambassadors, air force bases, and students who are living abroad all thru out the Middle East and Europe and Egypt who would be at danger of getting attacked.  

    Remember Bin Laden bombed one of our African embassies and also one of our Navy Ships before 9/11 killing many Americans.  Would you of rather had us wait to get attacked again, or actually do something about it.  Not only to seek justice for those of our fellow Americans who have been martyred but also to prevent this from happening in the future.  The only way to kill this thing which must die is too dig into the ground and pull it out by the roots.  That is what we are doing and we are doing a very good job of it.

    What happened to that girl was a tragedy.  But being in the Army I know how these things can get covered up, and I also know how these things can be reversed to make it look like a cover up.  Now that guy had a sketch of the murder scene and all of this supposed evidence but I’m going to keep it real with you and what you were viewing was grieving parents who lost their daughter and are now out to get revenge and won’t stop till they see their daughter again.  I can understand that but this is what we call misplaced hate and blame.  They do not have any evidence to support the fact she was raped and murdered.  If their were then their would be people going down for it but whether she was killed, killed herself, or was killed by accident, over their when the rest of that base is living with the reality that any second a mortor round, a bomb, or an attack can happen and kill everybody else their the only thing to do is move on.  That girl was in her PT gear meaning she was off duty.  It sounds like it was an accidental discharge it looked like something might of happened on accident.

    I can promise you this tho the Military does not want murdering rapists in the Army.  This should not be viewed as a reflection on life in the military or how the military works.  There are corrupted people in every shape of life and sure their are some in the military but do not get confuse reality with propaganda is all I’m saying.  

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  • #470079
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    cookielogic
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    firstly, no one really knows who is responsible for 9/11.  sure, you can choose to believe the official government story but with a little open eyed research one can see that is absurd. 

    secondly, to end terrorism against the united states, the united states must first end its terrorism against nations of the world with desired resources.  the whole middle east mess begain some 60 years ago when the relatively new CIA created a coup against Iran’s democratically elected Mosaddegh and put into power a dictator named Pahlavi.  nothing has been the same in the region since and why should it when the big bully USofA gets to play puppet master with other countries leaders.  imagine another country doing the same thing here.  most americans would harbour great resent at those responsible. 

    thirdly, and to the threads real topic…i dont find the heinous acts on this young woman or any of the others shocking.  it is sickening, but this country was founded and raised on brutality.  the culture here is sick.  even sicker is how so many of us are in denial and try to cover it all up, similarly to how the militaty tries to cover up this kind of thing happening.

    let the negatives rain down upon me…

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  • #470094
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    cookielogic
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    firstly, no one really knows who is responsible for 9/11.  sure, you can choose to believe the official government story but with a little open eyed research one can see that is absurd. 

    secondly, to end terrorism against the united states, the united states must first end its terrorism against nations of the world with desired resources.  the whole middle east mess begain some 60 years ago when the relatively new CIA created a coup against Iran’s democratically elected Mosaddegh and put into power a dictator named Pahlavi.  nothing has been the same in the region since and why should it when the big bully USofA gets to play puppet master with other countries leaders.  imagine another country doing the same thing here.  most americans would harbour great resent at those responsible. 

    thirdly, and to the threads real topic…i dont find the heinous acts on this young woman or any of the others shocking.  it is sickening, but this country was founded and raised on brutality.  the culture here is sick.  even sicker is how so many of us are in denial and try to cover it all up, similarly to how the militaty tries to cover up this kind of thing happening.

    let the negatives rain down upon me…

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  • #470276
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    Dc773
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    Mr. 19134, you and RudeRoy have excellent points. The Government is doing this intentionally; and the fact no one is calling them out on it, speaks volume about how far sleep the nation is. People need to know about this.

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  • #470261
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    Dc773
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    Mr. 19134, you and RudeRoy have excellent points. The Government is doing this intentionally; and the fact no one is calling them out on it, speaks volume about how far sleep the nation is. People need to know about this.

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  • #471755
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    llperez

    im pro war. Those middle eastern countires are screwed in the head. There are no middle grounds on basic human rights which they routinely do not follow over there. When 9/11 happened, somebody had to take a boot up their backside.

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  • #471770
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    llperez

    im pro war. Those middle eastern countires are screwed in the head. There are no middle grounds on basic human rights which they routinely do not follow over there. When 9/11 happened, somebody had to take a boot up their backside.

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